romney makes a point. i don't think romney's saying get rid of fema. i didn't hear that. romney makes a point the governors and mayors and whatever, the town councilmen, they know best how to get things done. why are they losing their power? why is fema and the federal government getting so much more power? >> well, it's its own kind of flood isn't it, larry? we say this is the new normal. higher water, federal spending. we have another emergency and raise the water again. we're up to federal spending now that's far beyond what we had traditionally, right? not just 15% or 18%. not 20% but more. so we get in the habit that that's part of it. and one of the things i have been looking at lately, what that does to the mood of the city, if you want to pull it psychologically, larry, to the fear part of the brain. are we safe? rather than to the opportunity part of the brain, what can we do? we get in a situation whereas now we think only about the bad side of this event and going to take a very long time to get to the opportunity. >> look, natural disasters are not new. we did